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What’s with the Shotgun for Bass Fishing?

Would you think to bring a shotgun to bass fishing? Well this guy sure did, and with good reason.
In this video you’ll get to see some great blasting and casting when two guys bring a shotgun fishing.

They give some great tips about filling your bird tags and hooking lunkers for anywhere you call home.

As you just saw the reason this guy wanted to bring a shotgun bass fishing was because of the cormorant bird. These ‘water turkeys’ frequent lakes where you can also find hungry pre spawn bass.

Although the shotgun worked well for the birds, the angler was using a Zoom 4? Lizard to lure in the pre spawn bass. The fisherman used a dragging technique to find where the fish were biting. He put the Lizard lure on the line and with aide of the split-shot, it bounced along the ground as the boat slowly over along.

After searching around the lake, tho guy had the most luck with the lizard lure and the chatterbait. Keep in mined each area has a unique environment, so you’ll have to find out which patterns will catch fish in your neck of the woods. However if you’re after birds, shotguns work well no matter where you go.

Video Transcription
Alright, so you’re probably asking, ‘why would you ever bring a shotgun out on a fishing trip?’ Well here in the south, we have birds that I call ‘water turkeys’, but their official name is a Comerand, and they’re a nuisance to a lake, and they can actually come in and take over. They fly in in the south and they eat all your baitfish and your bluegills, and they can really destroy a lake in a short amount of time. So my man Fred here, his job today is to run ’em off, shoot ’em, do whatever we can do to kinda get rid of some of these and kinda help get some of these birds out of this lake before they destroy it.

Here we go!

[Shot]

Get ’em Fred!

There he is! [shot] Got him!

Alright guys, it’s pre-spawn here in Alabama, and I’m gonna show you some techniques I use that really work. And this is what I call the #Hundie rig, and I say that because it works 100% of the time. But all joking aside, it is a really good technique to catch pre-spawn bass, and specifically to find out where these fish are at. So I’ll just show you, for instance.

I’m gonna target areas that are maybe 40-50 feet off the bank, and in the pre-spawn, these fish, the water temps aren’t warm enough to go spawn yet, so they’ll sit out here in what I call the prime real-estate. So just say, if there’s a stump right out here, 40 ft off the bank, there’s always gonna be a fish on it, even if you pull up and you catch that fish, you know, thirty minutes later, a day later, another fish is gonna move in. These are paths that they use in the spring, and kinda staging positions that they sit in. And the thing that I like to do is throw a really tiny lizard, I use a Must-add grip-in hook, and that hook will keep that lizard head from sliding down, so that’s a really cool hook for this technique. Eight-pound test line, a split-shot weight, and a spinning rod. And I’m just gonna cover all of this area, and I’ll catch a lot of small fish using this technique, but it’s really good to let me know what depth they’re holding in. Because the water’s still cold enough that they could be sitting out here in the deep part, they could be 20-40 feet off the bank, I don’t really know yet, so I’m gonna use this rig, find out where the fish are, and then I may swap over to a chatterbait or something, or maybe try to go for one of those bigger fish. But this is really successful because it’s a finesse presentation, and in the wintertime when the water’s still cold, or pre-spawn, they’re not necessarily wanting a heavy meal, you know. They’re fattened up over the winter, they’re looking for something a little light, and this is just small enough and just tempting enough to get them to bite it. So let’s see if we can catch something with this technique, and then we may swap them over to something and look for something big, but I have caught big fish on this finesse presentation before. So let’s try it out.

Oh yeah, and don’t forget the secret sauce. I always use it on my soft plastics. Make ’em hold on to it.

Here’s one. Got her. ‘No giant, but I’ll take it. Probably the number-one question I get asked on my Youtube channel, is ‘have you ever caught a small fish’, and of course, I catch a bunch of small fish throughout the year, but a lot of them don’t make the cut. But I’m gonna make sure that I show you guys some dinks in these videos. Little dinks, but still just lettin’ us know, we’re trying to key in on where they’re hanging out at, and hope to get into a big one soon.

So just to take a quick look, I probably caught that fish about fifty yards off the bank, but the fish that’re hanging out here are probably gonna move up into that cove there in the spring, and that’s where they’re going to spawn at. That’s the number one problem I see in the people fishing at the pre-spawn, they go straight to the banks, but a lot of the fish are still hanging out here offshore, so it just takes a little time to find ’em, but it can be rewarding.

There he is. Got him. Got a little drag for a little guy. I like it. A little junebug lizard. Come in here buddy. There we go. A little male bass. Got pretty colors on him, a little technique. There’s my lizard.

Now I’ll show you one other technique I like to do, I call it a dragon technique. What you do is just flip it out behind the boat and uh, if the wind is blowing, you just let the wind carry you. But if not, you just put the trolling motor down on the slowest speed and just drag it along every now and again, just cut it off. You’re not wanting that split-shot to be sitting down there on the bottom, and you’re wanting that lizard to kinda be bouncing back there on the other side of it, and I’ve had some good luck doing this, especially if I don’t know what area to target, I’ll drag until I get a bite, and then I’ll start casting and try to pick a spot apart, but we’ll see if they’re up for Dragon technique today.

Got him. Let’s see, what do we have here… Feels like it might be a decent little fish. Nope, not a little dink. Still fun catching ’em. Notice how far it was off the bank right there. That’s what I’m looking for, information. Not necessarily big bass right here. Oh this thing’s a fighter. Come on in here, buddy. There we go. Little healthy fish. Well alright, I think that’s enough to kinda tell us what we need. So we’re gonna put this one back. Haha.

Here we go. Oh yes sir. That’s a nice one. [something about good females] She’s got some power to her. Just gonna take my time, let her run out. Come on in here. There we go. A nice springtime fish right there. That could be a big male. Now these fish are confusing me. If that was a female, she should have some eggs. That’s probably a nice male right there. But hey we’ll take it on the hundie rig. Can’t beat that.

Alrigh now I’ve figured out where they’re at, located ’em, might swap over to spinner bait or chatter bait and try to get a real big one. But my rig did its job.

Alrighty, first fish out here with pre-spawn techniques. Chatter bait, search bait, trying to figure out where they’re at. Nice little chunker, female. Yep, that is a good way to start. Females are moving up. I’ll take it. No red tails, but you can tell she’s getting ready to pop.

Oh! That was not a good female; chopped up, spitted out. Hey we’re runnin’ a little bite here.

Alright guys, I’m gonna end today’s video here. I did end up catching some really nice fish, but I’m gonna save that, it’s gonna be a whole new video in itself, and it’s all thanks to this new rig I showed you. So hopefully you can go out and use it and find some pre-spawn patterns in your area, but before I end this video, I want to show you some typical spring lures that you’re gonna see me using this upcoming spring. Spinner bait, that’s the rig I was just using, swim jig, chatter bait, now these are all really good baits for the springtime. ‘nother chatter bait, and something like a big– that’s a custom-painted bluegill. And if you wanna see me use any other techniques or whatever for the springtime, just make sure to leave it in the comments below and I’ll try to make sure to cover those techniques, but make sure it’s a shallow water springtime technique. So get ready folks, I’m pumped up, it’s finally spring, the fish are finally moving up, and you’re definitely gonna see some big bass caught on our channel, so guys, get out there, and catch some of those springtime fatties!

Sources: BammaBass Youtube, Johnny Certo

Stoeger Coach Shotgun

A Survival Shotgun

At the time of 1923, Stoeger has been associated with fine firearms for the hunter, sportsman, and defensive shooter. Firearm diversity includes a variety of calibers and gauges: double barrel over-and-unders, side-by-sides, semi-autos, and pump-actions, as well as auto-loading defense and sporting pistols.

Stoeger actually began in 1923 in New York City (cough – back when NYC had common sense gun laws that promoted business) and grew until the 1990s, when Sako purchased the company. In 2000, Sako was in turn acquired by Beretta Holding, and Stoeger was placed under the current ownership of Benelli USA.

I first noticed Stoeger during the blitz of marketing around their double barreled coach guns a couple years ago with the boom of cowboy action shooting. The short barreled shotgun rose to popularity back in cowboy times via the Wells Fargo stagecoaches, where a handy, short, double barrel shotgun could deter unwanted coach visitors. With that need, the coach gun was actually produced by Wells Fargo as standard issue firearm at one point, but was followed in production by a number of other companies. Today, people are in love with the idea of the coach gun from a defensive perspective, but it was the cowboy action shooting scene which made the Stoeger Coach Gun a sales phenomenon.

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Recently, I finally got a chance to put my shoulder behind a Stoeger Coach Gun as a potential extended-term survival gun because a double barrel 12 gauge like the Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme is great option for this sort of application.

Fit and Feel
Stoeger has made its name with good quality products at a much lower than average price point. Every Coach Gun Supreme sports an AA-grade gloss walnut stock and beavertail fore-end, extensive cut checkering in a border-point pattern, and is fitted with a soft rubber recoil pad which is appreciated, considering the recoil.

The Stoeger Coach Guns are not considered “collector quality” arms, but are what I would term as standard to mid field grade in fit and finish. Stoeger’s focus has been to deliver good quality at rock bottom price ranges of $400-$450, depending on whether you’re looking at the Stoeger Standard or Supreme Coach Gun series. In this case, the Supreme Coach Gun I picked up was very well appointed with a weather resistant stainless receiver and polished nickel barrel finished inside and out for a very durable gun.

The Supreme version ups the fit, wood, and lacquer finish quality from the rougher finish on the standard line. The standard coach gun line looks the part for the cowboy action shooters, and the Supreme line looks like the shotgun the rich cowboys cary. Does it have the seamless transition fit and finish of an entry $2,000 Benelli or Beretta? No, but it would be unreasonable to assume it would for 25% of the price. The Stoeger line does offer a nice looking and feeling grade of gun which you will not be embarrassed holding, which works as reliably as any other side by side.

From a feel perspective, the gun’s short 20” barrel delivers a short and quick handling at 6.5lbs shotgun. This this is about 8” and a 1lb lighter than a standard double barrel and definitely the direction needed for a survival firearm.

Features and Functions
The Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme packs a number of features into this versatile shotgun that are similar to other shotguns, including 2-3/4” and 3” shell capacity, automatic tang mounted safety and barrel brake latch, and screw-in improved cylinder and modified choke tubes for versatility beyond just being a cowboy action and defensive gun. The gun breaks down quickly just like any other double barrel shotgun.

Because of the shorter size, the Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme would make an excellent home defense thunder stick loaded with OO buckshot, but it is not the quietest of options. Ear protection would be highly advised.

Nothing is for free, and that 8” shorter length and 1lb lighter weight does have a trade off: the 12 gauge Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme kicks like a mule. As a guy who once shot skeet and trap, I can manage recoil, and for a short survival and durable hunting and small game gun used for a couple shots here and there, the recoil is the compromise you make for the lightweight and packable size. That said, I would not want to run defensive drills with this gun for an afternoon without a thick Limbsaver cushion on the stock or reduced loads. Those cowboy action guys are a tough bunch.

Despite the shorter length, the removable chokes did provide nice patterns similar to what I would expect from a full length shotgun. The Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme comes with screw-in IC (Improved Cyclinder) and M (Modified) chokes, which proved efficiently flexible for seasonal game and junk bird hunting as well as testing defensive rounds. Add a couple extra full and modified chokes, and you have an all purpose upland goose and short range deer gun.

Though the double triggers take a little getting used to, they do provide flexibility for touching off the left or right barrel depending on the shot and choke required. This is probably one of the single biggest advantages of a double barrel and double triggers for the survivalist. If you slip up on a rabbit at 15 yards, you don’t need to hit him with the full choke barrel. You have options.

After months of shooting, I have yet to successfully launch both barrels simultaneously. “Giving the targets both barrels” always sounds like a fast double tap “ba-bam” due to the front trigger being a bit lighter than the rear. Those mis-timed events in itself were punishing endeavors, so I cannot imagine the pain of accomplishing my goal of both barrels going off together.

I understand the safety concern of the automatic safety, but it was a little counter-intuitive for running, gunning, and reloading defensive or cowboy action shooting. I found myself dropping in two shells, closing the action, and pulling the trigger, only to remember the safety automatically engages each time the action is opened. Training and practice would have to engrain a safety disengagement as part of a reload.

From a survival perspective, 2-3/4″ BB and 00 buckshot are good options for a lot of critters if your state’s game laws allow. 000 (.36”) buckshot is a handy size if you also carry a .357/.38 as you can use these balls to make rounds for those guns. Most enjoyable to shoot were #6 “light” field or skeet loads, which did a great job on junk birds out to about 40 yards.

Final Thoughts
For cowboy action shooters this is an automatic purchase. The 12 Gauge Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme is the quintessential stagecoach gun. It is fast handling, and at distances under 35-40 yards it works just dandy on defensive and critter based targets with buckshot. Visiting the local skeet and trap ranges proved that the Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme is not just a novelty and that “I’ve still got it.” That’s pretty impressive when you regularly start smoking clays out of a short barrel shotgun.

Story by Major Pandamic revised by Cal Sportsman